Planet X Bikes - Uncle John Cyclocross (CX) Frameset Review - SkyAboveUs - Outdoors
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Planet X Bikes - Uncle John Cyclocross (CX) Frameset Review

Liam Hallam is a sports science graduate. He is also a keen cyclist as well as being a lover of the Derbyshire Dales and Peak District.

The Planet X Uncle John Cyclocross Bike

The Planet X Uncle John pictured in it's natural habitant- the countryside

The Planet X Uncle John pictured in it's natural habitant- the countryside

The Planet X Uncle John is marketed as a multi-use frameset: at home as a lightweight cyclocross racer, yet with the ability to adapt to become a quality commuter bike or winter trainer. This review will assess its ability to deal with all of these demands.

CX is gaining huge popularity across the globe; however not everyone can justify the purchase of an ultra-lightweight carbon-fibre top-of-the-range cyclocross bike which could set them back thousands of pounds/dollars/euros. The Planet X Uncle John aims to offer a great value alternative and therefore could be considered as an option for a first cyclocross bike.

Value-for-Money Cyclocross Frame

Great news! You can buy a triple butted lightweight aluminium frame with carbon fibre cx fork for less than £300 ($450 USD) and have a choice of red or blue colour too! This is fantastic value for money and opens up having a cyclocross bike to the masses.

Definitely great value for money for a cyclocross frame set.

My Uncle John Build Up

I've owned my size large Uncle John for 3 years and have it built up as below. (With original spec in brackets where adjustment made). The bike was purchased without wheels and tyres as the result of a special offer at the time.

Groupset. Shimano 105 10 speed

Chainset. FSA Gossamer CX with 44/ 36 chainrings

Handlebars. Planet X Superlight Team 44 cm

Stem. ITM Millennium 110 mm (Planet X Superlight Team 100 mm)

Seatpost. ITM Millennium Carbon (Planet X Superlight Team)

Saddle. Selle Italia Prolight (Planet X Team- Fizik Arionne Replica)

Brakes. Planet X Frogs Bollox

Wheelset. Mavic Ksyrium SL

Tyres. Challenge Grifo

Out on the woods, the spiritual home of the Planet X Uncle John

At home on the road or trail. The Planet X Uncle John cyclocross bike

At home on the road or trail. The Planet X Uncle John cyclocross bike

Traditional seat stay set up on the Planet X Uncle John gives greater mud clearance.

Traditional seat stay set up on the Planet X Uncle John gives greater mud clearance.

Double bottle cage mounts add to the practicality of the frame on the Planet X Uncle John

Double bottle cage mounts add to the practicality of the frame on the Planet X Uncle John

Planet X Uncle John Frameset Specification

The frame is made from triple butted super light aluminium and tips the scales at a reasonable yet not considerably light weight of 1980 g in my large size. A relatively light high end cyclo cross frameset would be expected to weigh around 1500 g however would likely cost over twice as much.

The Planet X Uncle John frame has clearance for 38 mm tyres. UCI regulations set that the max width for racing tyres is 32 mm therefore this allows for excellent mud clearance capabilities, especially when you consider that the frame also uses a traditional seat stay set up as opposed to a mono stay which decreases mud clearance.

The frame is also unlike many budget cyclo cross frames as it includes mounts for disc brakes and cantilevers. Disc brakes are a new addition to the cyclo cross world and give greater quality braking which is a step forward for cyclo cross as mud and water severely effects braking performance.

The Planet X Uncle John frame and forks also have braze on's in place for the mounting of mudguard fenders to give adaptability of purpose as well as featuring two sets of bottle cage mounts- while you shouldn't need a bottle in a cyclo cross race these bottle cage mounts are uncommon on high end cyclo cross frames and allow the frame to be used for other purposes like as a commuter bike or winter bike.

Disc Brake Mounts on a cyclo cross frame

Disc Brake and mud guard fender mounts give great flexibility in use of the Uncle John Frameset

Disc Brake and mud guard fender mounts give great flexibility in use of the Uncle John Frameset

Mud Clearance on a Planet X Uncle John

Lots of mud clearance on the Planet X Uncle John to ensure against mud plugging!

Lots of mud clearance on the Planet X Uncle John to ensure against mud plugging!

The important bit- how does the Planet X Uncle John ride?

With so many people now used to riding carbon fibre bikes it's somewhat refreshing to jump onto a relatively stiff aluminium bike and feel how much fun they really can be. One way I would describe the Uncle John is responsive. However it also feels confidence inspiring.

The position in a size large feels upright due to it's 170mm headtube which is raised even further by the fact that the frameset does not take a modern integrated headset which raises the height of the handlebars. Planet X have now adapted the frame to accept integrated headsets which should now lower the front end and provide a racier feel.

The frame and fork feel resilient with every pedal stroke despite my old Mavic Ksyrium SL wheels now being slightly on the spongey side. (Ironically I never liked them on my road race bike as they felt dull and lifeless).

Out on the trail the Uncle John simply urges you to go and find some singletrack and simply have fun. The handling is responsive and urges you to push your boundaries further.

Planet X Uncle John Geometry

Planet X Uncle John Frame Geometry

Planet X Uncle John Frame Geometry

What size Planet X Uncle John Frame do I need?

The below table from Planet X shows the geometry of the Uncle John frameset and a recommendation of what size frame is required based on height and the information is taken from the Planet X Website

Uncle John Frame Sizing from Planet X

MeasurementDescriptionSMLXL

Head Angle (degrees) 

71 

72

72

72

Head Tube (mm) 

110 

140

170

190

Effective Top Tube (mm) 

522 

542

568

588

Seat Angle (degrees) 

74 

74

73

72

Seat Tube length (c-f) 

510 

540

570

590

Chainstay Length (mm) 

435 

435

435

435

Standover height (mm) 

780 

81

84

88

 

Recommended Rider Height (Feet)

5ft3 to 5ft7

5ft8 to 5ft11

5ft10 to 6ft2

6ft1 to 6ft6

More Planet X Uncle John

Planet X Uncle John Fork

Planet X Uncle John Fork

I love my Planet X Uncle John

I ride my Uncle John with a great big smile on my face. I'm lucky in that locally to myself we have some great riding for which you don't necessarily need a mountain bike. I can ride a local 14 km singletrack loop which is closed as a technical red route with confidence on my Uncle John as I overtake mountain bikers and they look on in amazement that i'm on a 'cross bike and they're on a top of the range full suspension bike.

Could you use this as a winter bike or commuter?

Having owned this frameset for three years I can categorically say yes this could be a great winter bike. It has a comfortable racy yet slightly upright position that you can adapt for long distance comfortable riding. The responsiveness of the frameset means you could use it for fast training sessions and the braze on's and bottle bosses mean you can fit mud guards to ensure you stay relatively dirt free and hydrated on your rides.

Updates and upgrades for the 2012 Cyclocross Season

The Uncle John has a new set of Empella Froggleg brakes fitted for 2012

The Uncle John has a new set of Empella Froggleg brakes fitted for 2012

Froggleg Brakes are an iconic cyclocross brakeset which actually look 'bling'. Whilst Challenge Grifo Pro Tires offer all-around performance

Froggleg Brakes are an iconic cyclocross brakeset which actually look 'bling'. Whilst Challenge Grifo Pro Tires offer all-around performance

New red bar tape for the Uncle john to match the samcycling.com team kit of it's rider.

New red bar tape for the Uncle john to match the samcycling.com team kit of it's rider.

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Liam Hallam (author) from Nottingham UK on September 08, 2011:

Thank you Martie for your feedback. It's great to know others' thoughts

Martie Coetser from South Africa on September 07, 2011:

This is a well-written and worthy-to-read review of the Planet X Uncle John Cyclocross bike.